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Alt 18.10.2014, 16:15   #1
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You are already inquiring these kinds of things although you plan to replace your E65 in three years time?
Well, thats what i call "proper prior planning"... little bit far in advance though, isn't it?


Anyway, i'll try to answer some of your questions to my best knowledge.
I have a similar vehicle history, switching over from a E38 740d (which had basically the same engine as your E65) to (in the meantime it have been several) 535d, the last one being an F10 535d, which has the same drivetrain as the 740d and 640d you are interested in, in the case of the latter it's the same technical base, constructionwise.

First of all: don't let yourself discourage by the attempts at discrediting certain Diesel engines. The same was the case, when the 535d came out ("to much power from too little displacement") and over time it has not proven to be true.
Same goes for those people whose instant reaction is: "better buy a petrol engine", who can't quite comprehend the comfort an extended range without refueling offers.

What you probably already know is that any engine of comparable class but with only 6 cylinders will almost all of the time have better mileage than the respective 8-cylinder engine.
So, you can expect any of the cars you are interested in to have less fuel comsumption than your current one. Also, of course, because the drivetrain in toal (mostly the 8-gear transmission) is better by a magnitude than your current one and much more efficient.

You said that you operate your 740d at ~8,5l, which is quite on the lower end of the scale. You seem to be driving pretty economically.
Taking that into account you can expect to get below the 8l-mark with the 750d and with the 740d you might even see a below-7 value, at least on a regular basis.
In total, all of the 3l-inline-sixes don't differ that much in mileage, some people even say, the 740d can be driven more fuel-saving that the 730d because it hardly ever needs to use it's total output potential.
The 750d pulls ahead a little in the amount of fuel it uses, because of the all-wheel-drive and it's generally more performance-oriented layout.

If you want to have an impression of the comsumption of these cars under real-life conditions in germany (which for these cars is typically characterized very much by non-speedlimit-Autobahn drives), you should have a look at:
Externer Link (&Ooml;ffnet in neuem Fenster, der Forumsbetreiber distanziert sich vom Inhalt extern verlinkter Seiten.) Spritverbrauch berechnen und Autokosten verwalten - Spritmonitor.de, that gives you a very good picture of the upper and lower ends of the scale at least.

My personal piece of advice is: take the 740d , it offers almost the power the 750d has, with less consumption. It can easily be brought to 360hp without decreasing the durability of the drivetrain and without hampering its basic frugality regarding the fuel. It then has in effect the same performance as the 750d.
It doesn't have the mandatory 4x4, which means that most of them have active steering, which gives the car a much better manoeuvrability and the BMW-typical sporty touch.

One last thing: with the ever-shrinking fuel tanks you will not neccesarily always have the 1000km of range, unfortunately. Even less so if you decide on behalf of the 640d, for which all the things i said go as well. Which one you prefer is purely a matter of personal taste. The technology is exactly the same.

PS: "Ze english" of some of our members is borderline hilarious. No offense

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Alt 20.10.2014, 20:06   #2
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You are already inquiring these kinds of things although you plan to replace your E65 in three years time?
Well, thats what i call "proper prior planning"... little bit far in advance though, isn't it?


PS: "Ze english" of some of our members is borderline hilarious. No offense
Thank you for your insight into the diesel 6-ers.
As to planning in advance it came after the rumors of the 50d engines began surfacing and after a while the 750d was announced. So this past winter I began checking ads on mobile.de just out of curiosity and was surprised at how fast these cars were dropping in price.
However they are still way too expensive for me but I'm guesstimating that in about 3 years time they'll have dropped below 30k and maybe closer to 25k.
In the meantime I'll be researching all there is to know about F01/02.

On the subject of "Ze english" I'll say that it's pretty fluent compared to google translate that I used to read the threads here so far.

Pommy13: Sorry, I must have had you mixed up with someone else. Was reading through a lot of threads that day and someone who was driving a 750ld said their speeds were usually between 160-220km/h.

My E65 currently has 292000km on the clock and it will probably have closer to 450000km when I change to an F01 but I can guarantee that it will still be the best looking and maintained E65 with that kind of milage.
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Alt 20.10.2014, 21:21   #3
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Nice Car, why do you should not be patient with this lovley Car? I hate a lotof people, very much lease the car, think, its not mine and use these luxurios cars like garbage....
Extremly nice to read something you wrote (y)
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Alt 22.10.2014, 18:39   #4
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Also want to ask how accurate is the OBC average consumption compared to if you calculate it yourself with the amount of liters refueled and km driven on a F01/02?

On my E65 it had a very large difference on the OBC vs real consumption. OBC could show 6.7L/100km while real was 8.5L.
Fortunately I could correct it from the locked service menu.
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Alt 29.10.2014, 06:07   #5
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What I have seen sofar on the longterm onboard computers is

730ld 14 kilometers per liter
750LDx 11 kilomters per liter

The 740D(x) will be somewhere in between.

The 730 facelift is a lot faster than the previous one and is more than sufficient (and can be chipped)

For me the ideal car does not exist .. 740Ldx

I also drove the new active hybrid 6cyl.. And was very impressed! Very quiet and 11 km/l for a big petrol car? Very cheap second hand.. Downside is .. Less space in the bonnet, no towhook and no dynamic drive..

I think all the petrol versions have improved dramatically with the facelift.. Maybe Pommy has some more experience with that.

I have to replace a e66 750li on lpg which is fantastic as well.
Would have loved to have had the e66 v8 diesel longwheelbase version.. Alas .. Non existent.

I have driven several 750Ld cars. I have the feeling that they have gotten better, more silent? Does anybody know what improvemnets where made?
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Alt 29.10.2014, 11:52   #6
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Agree, my biggest wish was also a 740Ldxdrive. This does not exisist and so the 50Ld just spare 2-3 Liter but cost as a Year-old Car at least 10 Grands more. So the feeling of Driving the Diesel ist not a good one (for me), Decision was easy to made.
I tested every Kombination of Motor and Drive (the 50LDX 4 times). the 760Li ist nearly perfect, but massive expansive in Austria and sadly also without the fourwheel. But i want to have this in the Mountains right here...

Conclusion: 740L D Xdrive would be the perfect 7 Series Until this ist not available, i´ll drive my 750L i Xdrive...

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